<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><div style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 10px; line-height: normal; font-family: Menlo; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: rgb(102, 158, 255);" class=""><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class="">master.cf</span></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 10px; line-height: normal; font-family: Menlo; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: rgb(102, 158, 255);" class=""><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class=""><br class=""></span></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 10px; line-height: normal; font-family: Menlo; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: rgb(102, 158, 255);" class=""><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class="">smtpd pass - - n - - smtpd</span></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 10px; line-height: normal; font-family: Menlo; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: rgb(102, 158, 255);" class=""><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class="">smtp inet n - n - 1 postscreen</span></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 10px; line-height: normal; font-family: Menlo; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: rgb(102, 158, 255);" class=""><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class="">tlsproxy unix - - n - 0 tlsproxy</span></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 10px; line-height: normal; font-family: Menlo; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: rgb(102, 158, 255);" class=""><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class="">dnsblog unix - - n - 0 dnsblog</span></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 10px; line-height: normal; font-family: Menlo; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: rgb(102, 158, 255); min-height: 11px;" class=""><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class=""></span><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class="Apple-interchange-newline">
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<div style=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">Am 17.04.2024 um 13:12 schrieb Claude Heinzmann <<a href="mailto:claude.heinzmann@gmail.com" class="">claude.heinzmann@gmail.com</a>>:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><meta charset="UTF-8" class=""><div style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: "Segoe UI"; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=""><div id="x3987495b760f4f79957d7f642ca5a604" class=""><div style="clear: both;" class="">Hallo Christoph </div><div style="clear: both;" class=""><br class=""></div><div style="clear: both;" class=""><br class=""></div><div style="clear: both;" class="">Verwendest du postscreen ?</div><div style="clear: both;" class=""><br class=""></div><div style="clear: both;" class="">Wenn ja, hast du tlsproxy aktiviert oder wie sieht die master.cf aus ?</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><pre style="font-family: Courier, monospace; font-size: 12px;" class="">etc/postfix/<a href="https://www.postfix.org/master.5.html" class="">master.cf</a>:
tlsproxy unix - - n - 0 tlsproxy</pre></div></div></div><div style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: "Segoe UI"; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=""><br class=""></div><div style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: "Segoe UI"; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class="">Gruss</div><div style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: "Segoe UI"; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class="">Claude </div><div style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: "Segoe UI"; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=""><div class="">------ Originalnachricht ------</div><div class="">Von "Christoph Kukulies via postfix-users" <<a href="mailto:postfix-users@de.postfix.org" class="">postfix-users@de.postfix.org</a>></div><div class="">An "postfix-users Walter H via" <<a href="mailto:postfix-users@de.postfix.org" class="">postfix-users@de.postfix.org</a>></div><div class="">Datum 17.04.2024 12:58:25</div><div class="">Betreff Re: TLS test</div></div><div style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: "Segoe UI"; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=""><br class=""></div><div id="x919f4407e96d452" style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: "Segoe UI"; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><blockquote cite="x-msg://32/A1064B4A-EE22-414B-9671-C8D93AE8BCAA@kukulies.org" type="cite" class="cite2" style="margin-left: 5px; margin-right: 0px; padding-left: 10px; padding-right: 0px; border-left-width: 1px; border-left-style: solid; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); margin-top: 3px; padding-top: 0px;">Ich hoffe, ich habe die richtige Stelle aus dem Log herausgeschnitten, als ich die Email an Rudolfs Server geschickt hatte:<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><div class="" style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 10px; line-height: normal; font-family: Menlo; background-color: rgb(34, 79, 188);"><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: rgb(97, 0, 1);">Apr 16<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: rgb(88, 229, 64);">09:36:46<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: rgb(86, 219, 233);">mail<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: rgb(253, 151, 66);">postfix/smtpd[</span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: rgb(97, 0, 1);">1301027</span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: rgb(253, 151, 66);">]:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures;">connect from localhost[</span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: rgb(97, 0, 1);">127</span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures;">.</span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: rgb(97, 0, 1);">0</span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures;">.</span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: rgb(97, 0, 1);">0</span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures;">.</span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: rgb(97, 0, 1);">1</span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures;">]</span></div><div class="" style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 10px; line-height: normal; font-family: Menlo; color: rgb(97, 0, 1); background-color: rgb(34, 79, 188);"><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures;">Apr 16<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: rgb(88, 229, 64);">09:36:46<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: rgb(86, 219, 233);">mail<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: rgb(253, 151, 66);">postfix/smtpd[</span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures;">1301027</span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: rgb(253, 151, 66);">]:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures;">463BA7D074</span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">: client=localhost[</span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures;">127</span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">.</span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures;">0</span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">.</span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures;">0</span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">.</span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures;">1</span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">]</span></div><div class="" style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 10px; line-height: normal; font-family: Menlo; color: rgb(97, 0, 1); background-color: rgb(34, 79, 188);"><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures;">Apr 16<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: rgb(88, 229, 64);">09:36:46<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: rgb(86, 219, 233);">mail<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: rgb(253, 151, 66);">postfix/cleanup[</span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures;">1301020</span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: rgb(253, 151, 66);">]:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures;">463BA7D074</span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">: message-id=<</span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures;">23804476</span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">-</span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures;">0479</span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">-</span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures;">41CF</span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">-</span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures;">8E9C</span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">-</span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures;">42309D3F72CD</span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">@kukulies.org></span></div><div class="" style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 10px; line-height: normal; font-family: Menlo; background-color: rgb(34, 79, 188);"><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: rgb(97, 0, 1);">Apr 16<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: rgb(88, 229, 64);">09:36:46<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: rgb(86, 219, 233);">mail<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: rgb(253, 151, 66);">opendkim[</span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: rgb(97, 0, 1);">851</span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: rgb(253, 151, 66);">]:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: rgb(97, 0, 1);">463BA7D074</span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures;">: DKIM-Signature field added (s=</span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: rgb(97, 0, 1);">20231114</span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures;">, d=<a href="http://kukulies.org/" class="">kukulies.org</a>)</span></div><div class="" style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 10px; line-height: normal; font-family: Menlo; background-color: rgb(34, 79, 188);"><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: rgb(97, 0, 1);">Apr 16<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: rgb(88, 229, 64);">09:36:46<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: rgb(86, 219, 233);">mail<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: rgb(253, 151, 66);">postfix/qmgr[</span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: rgb(97, 0, 1);">1301021</span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: rgb(253, 151, 66);">]:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: rgb(97, 0, 1);">463BA7D074</span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures;">: from=<<a href="mailto:kuku@kukulies.org" class="">kuku@kukulies.org</a>>, size=</span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: rgb(97, 0, 1);">2584</span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures;">, nrcpt=</span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: rgb(97, 0, 1);">1</span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures;"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>(queue active)</span></div><div class="" style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 10px; line-height: normal; font-family: Menlo; background-color: rgb(34, 79, 188);"><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: rgb(97, 0, 1);">Apr 16<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: rgb(88, 229, 64);">09:36:46<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: rgb(86, 219, 233);">mail<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: rgb(253, 151, 66);">postfix/smtpd[</span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: rgb(97, 0, 1);">1301027</span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: rgb(253, 151, 66);">]:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures;">disconnect from localhost[</span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: rgb(97, 0, 1);">127</span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures;">.</span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: rgb(97, 0, 1);">0</span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures;">.</span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: rgb(97, 0, 1);">0</span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures;">.</span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: rgb(97, 0, 1);">1</span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures;">] ehlo=</span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: rgb(97, 0, 1);">1</span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures;"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>mail=</span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: rgb(97, 0, 1);">1</span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures;"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>rcpt=</span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: rgb(97, 0, 1);">1</span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures;"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>data=</span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: rgb(97, 0, 1);">1</span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures;"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>quit=</span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: rgb(97, 0, 1);">1</span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures;"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>commands=</span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: rgb(97, 0, 1);">5</span></div><div class="" style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 10px; line-height: normal; font-family: Menlo; background-color: rgb(34, 79, 188);"><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: rgb(97, 0, 1);">Apr 16<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: rgb(88, 229, 64);">09:36:46<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: rgb(86, 219, 233);">mail<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: rgb(253, 151, 66);">amavis[</span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: rgb(97, 0, 1);">1265181</span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: rgb(253, 151, 66);">]:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures;">(</span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: rgb(97, 0, 1);">1265181</span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures;">-</span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: rgb(97, 0, 1);">05</span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures;">) Passed CLEAN {RelayedInbound}, [</span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: rgb(97, 0, 1);">87</span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures;">.</span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: rgb(97, 0, 1);">180</span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures;">.</span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: rgb(97, 0, 1);">94</span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures;">.</span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: rgb(97, 0, 1);">241</span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures;">]:</span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: rgb(97, 0, 1);">63654</span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures;"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>[</span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: rgb(97, 0, 1);">87</span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures;">.</span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: rgb(97, 0, 1);">180</span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures;">.</span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: rgb(97, 0, 1);">94</span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures;">.</span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: rgb(97, 0, 1);">241</span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures;">] <<a href="mailto:kuku@kukulies.org" class="">kuku@kukulies.org</a>> -> <<a href="mailto:r.steiner@nemox.net" class="">r.steiner@nemox.net</a>>, Queue-ID:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: rgb(97, 0, 1);">4A4B77CF61</span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures;">, Message-ID: <</span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: rgb(97, 0, 1);">23804476</span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures;">-</span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: rgb(97, 0, 1);">0479</span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures;">-</span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: rgb(97, 0, 1);">41CF</span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures;">-</span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: rgb(97, 0, 1);">8E9C</span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures;">-</span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: rgb(97, 0, 1);">42309D3F72CD</span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures;">@kukulies.org>, mail_id:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: rgb(97, 0, 1);">0f</span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures;">iuz9ngo7Wl, Hits: -</span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: rgb(97, 0, 1);">1</span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures;">.</span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: rgb(97, 0, 1);">199</span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures;">, size:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: rgb(97, 0, 1);">2049</span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures;">, queued_as:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: rgb(97, 0, 1);">463BA7D074</span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures;">, dkim_sd=</span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: rgb(97, 0, 1);">20231114</span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures;">:<a href="http://kukulies.org/" class="">kukulies.org</a>,<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: rgb(97, 0, 1);">2893</span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures;"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>ms</span></div><div class="" style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 10px; line-height: normal; font-family: Menlo; background-color: rgb(34, 79, 188);"><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: rgb(97, 0, 1);">Apr 16<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: rgb(88, 229, 64);">09:36:46<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: rgb(86, 219, 233);">mail<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: rgb(253, 151, 66);">postfix/smtp[</span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: rgb(97, 0, 1);">1301023</span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: rgb(253, 151, 66);">]:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: rgb(97, 0, 1);">4A4B77CF61</span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures;">: to=<<a href="mailto:r.steiner@nemox.net" class="">r.steiner@nemox.net</a>>, relay=</span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: rgb(97, 0, 1);">127</span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures;">.</span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: rgb(97, 0, 1);">0</span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures;">.</span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: rgb(97, 0, 1);">0</span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures;">.</span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: rgb(97, 0, 1);">1</span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures;">[</span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: rgb(97, 0, 1);">127</span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures;">.</span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: rgb(97, 0, 1);">0</span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures;">.</span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: rgb(97, 0, 1);">0</span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures;">.</span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: rgb(97, 0, 1);">1</span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures;">]:</span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: rgb(97, 0, 1);">10024</span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures;">, delay=</span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: rgb(97, 0, 1);">3</span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures;">.</span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: rgb(97, 0, 1);">2</span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures;">, delays=</span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: rgb(97, 0, 1);">0</span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures;">.</span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: rgb(97, 0, 1);">29</span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures;">/</span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: rgb(97, 0, 1);">0</span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures;">.</span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: rgb(97, 0, 1);">01</span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures;">/</span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: rgb(97, 0, 1);">0</span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures;">.</span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: rgb(97, 0, 1);">02</span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures;">/</span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: rgb(97, 0, 1);">2</span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures;">.</span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: rgb(97, 0, 1);">9</span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures;">, dsn=</span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: rgb(97, 0, 1);">2</span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures;">.</span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: rgb(97, 0, 1);">0</span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures;">.</span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: rgb(97, 0, 1);">0</span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures;">, status=sent (</span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: rgb(97, 0, 1);">250</span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures;"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: rgb(97, 0, 1);">2</span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures;">.</span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: rgb(97, 0, 1);">0</span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures;">.</span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: rgb(97, 0, 1);">0</span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures;"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>from MTA(smtp:[</span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: rgb(97, 0, 1);">127</span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures;">.</span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: rgb(97, 0, 1);">0</span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures;">.</span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: rgb(97, 0, 1);">0</span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures;">.</span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: rgb(97, 0, 1);">1</span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures;">]:</span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: rgb(97, 0, 1);">10025</span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures;">):<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: rgb(97, 0, 1);">250</span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures;"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: rgb(97, 0, 1);">2</span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures;">.</span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: rgb(97, 0, 1);">0</span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures;">.</span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: rgb(97, 0, 1);">0</span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures;"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Ok: queued as<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: rgb(97, 0, 1);">463BA7D074</span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures;">)</span></div><div class="" style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 10px; line-height: normal; font-family: Menlo; color: rgb(97, 0, 1); background-color: rgb(34, 79, 188);"><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures;">Apr 16<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: rgb(88, 229, 64);">09:36:46<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: rgb(86, 219, 233);">mail<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: rgb(253, 151, 66);">postfix/qmgr[</span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures;">1301021</span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: rgb(253, 151, 66);">]:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures;">4A4B77CF61</span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">: removed</span></div><div class="" style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 10px; line-height: normal; font-family: Menlo; background-color: rgb(34, 79, 188);"><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: rgb(97, 0, 1);">Apr 16<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: rgb(88, 229, 64);">09:36:46<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: rgb(86, 219, 233);">mail<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: rgb(253, 151, 66);">postfix/smtp[</span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: rgb(97, 0, 1);">1301022</span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: rgb(253, 151, 66);">]:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: rgb(97, 0, 1);">463BA7D074</span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures;">: to=<<a href="mailto:r.steiner@nemox.net" class="">r.steiner@nemox.net</a>>, relay=<a href="http://extern8.nemox.net/" class="">extern8.nemox.net</a>[</span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: rgb(97, 0, 1);">83</span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures;">.</span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: rgb(97, 0, 1);">137</span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures;">.</span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: rgb(97, 0, 1);">41</span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures;">.</span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: rgb(97, 0, 1);">16</span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures;">]:</span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: rgb(97, 0, 1);">25</span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures;">, delay=</span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: rgb(97, 0, 1);">0</span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures;">.</span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: rgb(97, 0, 1);">64</span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures;">, delays=</span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: rgb(97, 0, 1);">0</span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures;">.</span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: rgb(97, 0, 1);">1</span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures;">/</span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: rgb(97, 0, 1);">0</span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures;">/</span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: rgb(97, 0, 1);">0</span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures;">.</span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: rgb(97, 0, 1);">42</span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures;">/</span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: rgb(97, 0, 1);">0</span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures;">.</span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: rgb(97, 0, 1);">12</span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures;">, dsn=</span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: rgb(97, 0, 1);">2</span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures;">.</span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: rgb(97, 0, 1);">0</span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures;">.</span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: rgb(97, 0, 1);">0</span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures;">, status=sent (</span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: rgb(97, 0, 1);">250</span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures;"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: rgb(97, 0, 1);">2</span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures;">.</span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: rgb(97, 0, 1);">0</span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures;">.</span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: rgb(97, 0, 1);">0</span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures;"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Ok: queued as DC72110800D5)</span></div><div class="" style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 10px; line-height: normal; font-family: Menlo; color: rgb(97, 0, 1); background-color: rgb(34, 79, 188);"><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures;">Apr 16<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: rgb(88, 229, 64);">09:36:46<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: rgb(86, 219, 233);">mail<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: rgb(253, 151, 66);">postfix/qmgr[</span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures;">1301021</span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: rgb(253, 151, 66);">]:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures;">463BA7D074</span><span class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">: removed</span></div><div class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">Am 16.04.2024 um 16:28 schrieb Markus Winkler via postfix-users <<a href="mailto:postfix-users@de.postfix.org" class="">postfix-users@de.postfix.org</a>>:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div class="">Hallo Christoph,<br class=""><br class="">On 16.04.24 11:19, Christoph Kukulies via postfix-users wrote:<br class="">>> Die E-Mail wurde unverschlüsselt über "<a href="http://mail.kukulies.org/" class="">mail.kukulies.org</a>" eingeliefert<br class="">>> ("<a href="http://mail.kukulies.org/" class="">mail.kukulies.org</a>" hat kein "STARTTLS" angefordert, obwohl es<br class="">>> angeboten wurde).<br class="">><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">Danke, Rudolf. Was heißt das nun? Verschlüsselt also mein Mailserver nicht automatisch? Habe ich was falsch konfiguriert?<br class="">Ich versende normalerweise mit S/Mime angehängtem Zertifikat ( wie in dieser Email), kann auch auf OpenPGP umschalten.<br class=""></blockquote><br class="">Du musst generell zwischen a) Transportverschlüsselung (TLS) und b) End-to-End Verschlüsselung, realisiert durch die beteiligten Mailclients mittels S/MIME oder (Open)PGP unterscheiden. Das eine hat mit dem anderen nichts zu tun. Und b) ist für Deine ursprüngliche Fragestellung (siehe Betreff) irrelevant.<br class=""><br class="">Rudolf spricht von a), also TLS. Wenn dein Server ausgangsseitig, also als Client, kein TLS verwendet, kann das x Gründe haben. U. a. den, dass Du etwas falsch konfiguriert hast. Um das einzugrenzen, brauchen wir den Output von 'postconf -n' und idealerweise auch das Stück des Logs, als Dein Server die Mail zu Rudolfs Server übertragen hat.<br class=""><br class="">Viele Grüße<br class="">Markus</div></div></blockquote></div></div></blockquote></div></div></blockquote></div><br class=""></body></html>